help me with my wood

"OPPOsaurus WRX" (opposaurus) 01/17/2020 at 13:37 • Filed to: None

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I tried using a stain and it comes out very muddy and looks like a shitty paint job instead of stain. It i s not clear and covers all the grain. Someone suggested using adding paint thinner (mineral spirits?) which I have not tried yet. Someone else suggested using a mixture of coffee, vinegar and letting steel wool sit it for a little while (i actually tried the steel wool and vinegar , no coffee and it was very grey but it did stain the wood) what do you guys think? It is a rough saw pine so it has a lot of texture. I was thinking that could be part of the issue too

also the xmas stuff is gone cuz its not xmas any more.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/17/2020 at 13:51

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Have you tried doing more surface prep like a generous sanding with 10 0 grit? That would get the rough sections down and remove impurities like sap and oil that cold be on the wood. There are also semi transparent paints like what I panted my deck with that have more solids so they do a better job of getting the color more consistent .

Cash Rewards > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/17/2020 at 13:54

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How are you applying the stain? Paint on, wait, rub off? Or ju st rubbing it in with a cloth? Also, semi-transparent stain? What's your setup?

Mid Engine > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 01/17/2020 at 13:54

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Good advice. Belt sander with 100 grit (or lower) saves time , cheese cloth to wipe down the wood post-sanding , and semi-transparent stain. Also, you can buy p re p liquid that you put on the wood first to seal it, then apply the stain.

OPPOsaurus WRX > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 01/17/2020 at 14:05

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the rough finish is intentional so it look s like a rec lai med beam. i wouldn’ t want to sand it at all

Sovande > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/17/2020 at 14:05

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Shellac or varnish?

OPPOsaurus WRX > Cash Rewards 01/17/2020 at 14:06

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so far i only did a few test pieces, i rubbed it on with  a cloth and patted up any extra

shop-teacher > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/17/2020 at 14:16

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Is the wood pine?

Try using wood conditioner before applying stain.

functionoverfashion > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/17/2020 at 14:18

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We have rough sawn beams and ceilings in our house, and in doing some renovations have had to try to stain the new or uncovered sections to try to match the weathered look of the stuff that’s been exposed since 1987. We just used regular old Minwax stains from the hardware store like this:

And we mixed colors until it was close enough. It was so close that it’s hard to tell what’s new and old unless you really look. I don’t have any pictures of my ceiling (weird, right?) but here’s something:

eta: the stuff is pretty thin on its own, and was all applied via cloth rags. 

lone_liberal > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/17/2020 at 14:22

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You might want to experiment with allowing different set up times before wiping it off to see how it behaves. I know when we were  doing some base trim with a darker stain that we had to wipe it off almost immediately to keep it from going black.

Chariotoflove > shop-teacher 01/17/2020 at 14:24

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What’s a wood conditioner, and what does it do to help the staining process?

Chariotoflove > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/17/2020 at 14:25

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I wonder how you can apply stain to a rough finish and get a consistent application. I would think it hard to get the same depth across the entire beam.

MonkeePuzzle > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/17/2020 at 14:33

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depending on the wood type, there are some pretreatments you can apply that help the stain. they’re in the same area of the store as the stain. possibly get a sample and try

TorqueToYield > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/17/2020 at 14:40

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Lots of different stains out there.

If you want something light and natural looking that really makes the grain pop I like this product a lot:

https://www.howardproducts.com/product/feed-n-wax-wood-polish-and-conditioner/

it’s a wax not really a stain but that might be more what you’re looking for

shop-teacher > Chariotoflove 01/17/2020 at 14:41

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This article explains it better than I can. It soaks into wood, especially soft wood, and keeps the stain from getting splo tchy.

Chariotoflove > shop-teacher 01/17/2020 at 14:46

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Got it. The blotch iness was what I was worried about.

Cash Rewards > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/17/2020 at 14:58

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I've done that, with good results. Maybe try applying with foam brush, wait (time determined through experimentation), wipe off? Especially if it’s for a short period, I’ve gotten lighter stain that way.

OPPOsaurus WRX > shop-teacher 01/17/2020 at 17:46

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It is pine.

shop-teacher > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/17/2020 at 20:02

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Pine is tricky to get to take a finish. Definitely try the wood conditioner.

OPPOsaurus WRX > shop-teacher 01/17/2020 at 20:54

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Sunday I’m going to go to a real paint store instead of H ome Depot and I’m going to bring the wood so they can see what’s going on . I’ll grab some of the conditioner.  A few people have brought that up.

OPPOsaurus WRX > functionoverfashion 01/17/2020 at 20:57

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Tis is what I’ve tried so far. I think the grain stands out more in the photo because eits reflecting the super bright light at the cam era but in person not much actually shows

shop-teacher > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/17/2020 at 21:08

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Good plan of attack.

functionoverfashion > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/18/2020 at 11:27

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yeah I’d go for a thinner, more penetrating stain - I know what you mean, it’s hard to capture what it looks like in pictures. It also fades a little with time, and the natural grain of the wood becomes more visible again...